33. What’s beyond democracy? (proposed — Soon) discussed on 13 July 2013

Is there any alter­na­tive gov­ern­ment struc­ture bet­ter than democ­ra­cy? What’s beyond democ­ra­cy? Is it impor­tant to have everyone’s voice being heard or is it the major­i­ty opin­ion that counts? Does the whole vot­ing sys­tem rep­re­sent a nation? What if vot­ing is not com­pul­so­ry in Aus­tralia?

5 thoughts on “33. What’s beyond democracy? (proposed — Soon) discussed on 13 July 2013

  1. thormay@yahoo.com Post author

    The Deep State — is this the future, or already the present? See: John Tir­man, “The Qui­et Coup: No, Not Egypt. Here.” at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-tirman/nsa-deep-state_b_3569316.html?utm_hp_ref=world&ir=World

    Now (2013) we are all aware of Ed Snow­den and the Prism pro­gram. Aus­tralia, btw, is a part­ner in that deal. That means you. How­ev­er, the infor­ma­tion has been around for quite a while. Here is an arti­cle from June 2012 on exact­ly the rapid loss of real democ­ra­cy to the Deep State: Tom Burghardt, ““FINAL CURTAIN CALLIN AMERICA? DEEP POLICE STATE SURVEILLANCE AND THE DEATH OF DEMOCRACY” at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30079

  2. thormay@yahoo.com Post author

    Com­ment from Naomi via the Mee­tup web­site (http://www.meetup.com/Gentle-Thinkers/events/127070812/comments/211587892/?itemTypeToken=COMMENT&a=uc1_rd&read=1&_af_eid=127070812&_af=event )

    I think it’s impor­tant to define what we mean by democ­ra­cy’ — rule of the peo­ple in its essence, yes. But think of the dif­fer­ent kinds of soci­eties that have been called democ­ra­cies. Ancient Rome, for instance, was also a slave-own­ing soci­ety and many peo­ple, such as wom­en, were exclud­ed from the demo­c­ra­t­ic process. Do peo­ple think Aus­tralia has a good lev­el of democ­ra­cy? I think there is an argu­ment to be made that our cur­rent gov­ern­ment struc­ture does not tru­ly resem­ble a democ­ra­cy — a rule of the peo­ple. I would argue that the two-par­ty par­lia­men­tary sys­tem does not guar­an­tee a high lev­el of democ­ra­cy for all cit­i­zens. But I’m an ide­al­ist and like to imag­ine a bet­ter world.

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